Quote: Originally posted by Mad_Max Абсолютно В этом году, правда, есть там еще мысль посетить на денек Балеарские острова, но поскоку я не летаю, все зависит от наличия парома.

Макс, а как же ты в Америку выбраться хочешь - на катамаране чтоль?

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"My dream would be to drive for McLaren and sit on the front row with Kimi Raikkonen next to me." Lewis Hamilton, 2005.

Quote: Originally posted by LeoMac Макс, а как же ты в Америку выбраться хочешь - на катамаране чтоль?

а америка это ваще жесть - часов 16 лететь. и еще и посадкой бывает. а для меня хуже посадки может быть тока взлет

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Обходя разложенные грабли - ты теряешь драгоценный опыт.

Quote: Originally posted by LeoMac Quote: Originally posted by Mad_Max Абсолютно В этом году, правда, есть там еще мысль посетить на денек Балеарские острова, но поскоку я не летаю, все зависит от наличия парома. Макс, а как же ты в Америку выбраться хочешь - на катамаране чтоль?

Эх, темнота
HMS Queen Mary 2, еженедельные рейсы Гавр/Саутгемптон или Гамбруг - Нью-Йорк. Отбытие в 17.00, 5 дней в акеяне, прибытие в 07.15 утра. Самые дешевые каюты при ранней брони 1.849 бакса без иллюминатора, либо такие же простые, но с дыркой - 2.199.
Вот так и планирую

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Я с сожалением вынужден считать, что НЫНЕШНЯЯ команда МакЛарен - контора с подмоченной репутацией и приличному испанскому человеку там не место
If you wanna win - get the finn! (c)

Quote: Originally posted by Tigra Quote: Originally posted by Mad_Max А тебе куда так далеко лететь и зачем? ну вроде как в отпуск - на тенерифе.

О, почти соседи!

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Я с сожалением вынужден считать, что НЫНЕШНЯЯ команда МакЛарен - контора с подмоченной репутацией и приличному испанскому человеку там не место
If you wanna win - get the finn! (c)

Quote: Originally posted by LeoMac Quote: Originally posted by Mad_Max Вот так и планирую Свина то с собой брать будешь?

Эх, маленький он еще

Ну ладна, дорогие дамы и господа, пора мне топать ужо, всем всего хорошего, надеюсь, погодка все-таки еще побалует теплом, а гонки бардаком
Буду рад вас всех вновь увидеть ровно через месяц

Пока!

ЗЫ Рон, не отчаивайся, продолжай сжимать

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Я с сожалением вынужден считать, что НЫНЕШНЯЯ команда МакЛарен - контора с подмоченной репутацией и приличному испанскому человеку там не место
If you wanna win - get the finn! (c)

Отчаливай уже!!!

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Лучше всего умеют слушать те люди, рядом с которыми лучше не болтать.

Quote: Originally posted by Mad_Max О, почти соседи!

не совсем, я тока через месяц в отпуск
а тебе - хорошего отдыха!

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Обходя разложенные грабли - ты теряешь драгоценный опыт.

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McLaren my life, and this truth

Гарри, однозначно, симпатичней, чем путяжники!
(Не надо подозревать АХТУНГ!

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Лучше всего умеют слушать те люди, рядом с которыми лучше не болтать.

Кста2, оно приехало в свою Швецию, хде-то стырило там байк, правда, жалуется, что самый простецкий ибо навороченые стырили до него, передает всем огромный ПРЕВЕД, говорит, что отдыхаеццо супер (сволочь!)
веленое передала, за сим сама отчаливаю в отпуск всем чмоки - ушла блистать

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У верблюда два горба, потому что жизнь - борьба!

С возвращением Mad_Max!!!!!


Ну что, ждём от вас, отдахнувшего, мега отчёт за всю треть сезона!!!

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из-за негодованию некоторых индивидуумов подпись стёрта.

Quote: Originally posted by oldDriver Quote: Originally posted by russian С возвращением Mad_Max!!!!! Ну что, ждём от вас, отдахнувшего, мега отчёт за всю треть сезона!!! ... что я запомнил из приговора - Макса торопить низзя!!!!

Не, ну он же отдахнул, покатался вдоволь, расслабился. А теперь маэстро сотворит супер пупер юмористический мега отсчёт!

Last edited by: russian on 18.09.07 13:38:15

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из-за негодованию некоторых индивидуумов подпись стёрта.

Quote: Originally posted by oldDriver ... что я запомнил из приговора - Макса торопить низзя!!!!

???

А что значит "что я запомнил"? Они тебя били?

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Я с сожалением вынужден считать, что НЫНЕШНЯЯ команда МакЛарен - контора с подмоченной репутацией и приличному испанскому человеку там не место
If you wanna win - get the finn! (c)

Belgian GP Winners and Losers

Ferrari were big winners in Belgium, but Felipe Massa's hopes of being the Scuderia's 'chosen one' disappeared off down the road. Meanwhile Fernando did a Felipe...
Star of the Race
Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, Winner
Raikkonen had a good day in the office. He was able to open up a gap to Felipe Massa quite easily and the McLarens were never going to catch him. His greatest threat was the recurrence of Massa's suspension problem from Monza, but despite a few worries, it didn't reappear.
Overtaking Move of the Race
Lap 3 Mark Webber on Heiki Kovalainen for P6
A very brave Webbo stalked Kovalainen through Eau Rouge and was already alongside him going through Le Raidillon. No mean feat given the aero instability of following another car. Going up the hill to Les Combes he carefully edged the Renault driver towards the dirty inside line and then resumed the racing line for his braking point. Clinical.
Winners
Ferrari
The double is still on. And judging by the way the McLaren drivers are shaping up, they could easily take each other out in one of the three remaining races.
Fernando Alonso, McLaren, 3rd
Alonso obviously learnt from his first corner incident with Felipe Massa in Spain. You got the feeling he would have pushed his car wide at La Source to block Hamilton on the opening lap whether there had been run-off there or not. It was certainly an intentional move aimed at putting some manners on Hamilton and it worked.
As long as he accepts that Massa and Hamilton can do it back to him that's fine. We saw in the explosive post-race encounter at the Nurburgring that he thought Massa was out of order running wide in Spain and carried the grudge over several races.
Fernando is proving that he has all of Michael Schumacher's ruthlessness on the track, yet none of his charisma off it. It seems slightly incongruous that McLaren are bending over backwards to give their drivers equal treatment, yet all he's trying to do is get preferential treatment.
Certainly after this week's revelations about his threats to expose his own team, the rumours that he is withholding set-up information from his team-mate don't seem nearly so far-fetched.
Nick Heidfeld, BMW, 5th
Once he was clear of Kovalainen after the first round of pit-stops he had his familiar lonely race to some points.
Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota, 6th
With the unexpected bonus of McLaren disappearing from the Constructors' Championship, Rosberg's 6th place all but guaranteed Williams 4th place for Frank, a remarkable turnround from last season.
Mark Webber, Red Bull, 7th
The hydraulics held together and Webbo scored points. To have beaten a Renault and a BMW on a drivers' circuit will feel good.
Heiki Kovalainen, Renault, 8th
Heiki just about made a one-stop strategy work. His defence of 8th place against Robert Kubica in the final stages of the race was heroic.
Losers
Max Mosley, FIA President
Mosley's Saturday appearance was the FIA president at his worst. The revelation that it was Ron Dennis himself who had tipped off the FIA about driver e.mails was too much for Max to bear. He couldn't have Dennis gaining the upper hand in the PR battle after the FIA had received a good shoeing from the world's media for the incredible treatment they'd meted out to McLaren.
On Thursday the FIA had singularly failed to find any hard evidence against Mclaren and he gathered a cabale of pressmen to shoot from the lip, talking about the 323 SMS calls that all couldn't all be about Coughlan and Stepney going off to join Honda.
One of his good lines was "once we get this culture of cheating in the sport" as though they had actually proven something. And that it hadn't gone for the last 57 years. They couldn't prove anything, other than there had been a whole lot more communication than Coughlan and McLaren had previously admitted to and that Ron Dennis really should find out what is being done by his team (though you could easily say that of Ferrari; Nigel Stepney wasn't exactly quiet about his dissatisfaction in the team, issuing in January what PF1 laughingly referred to at the time as a "come and get me plea"
In personalising the issue and bringing in to question Ron Dennis's integrity Mosley was going way beyond his remit. His logic had also gone missing. In trying to defend the $100m fine he started talking about the $100m difference between McLaren and Williams' budgets. The reason that we have had such a good battle this year is because Mclaren don't have Williams' budget.
$100m is about a fifth of McLaren's annual turnover. Extending the idea of the fine to a company like British Petroleum whose turnover is $266 billion, then BP should pay about $53 billion in compensation for - for the sake of argument - an oil spill. And all this without some hard evidence that McLaren had done anything more than take an overly close look at their rival's car, which was a completely different wheelbase.
Certainly McLaren should be censured for what they've done and shouldn't have been allowed to win the Constructors' Championship, but Mosley was trying and failing badly to justify the FIA's over-reaction. He looked rattled.
By adopting the Williams budget argument he's also given ammunition for those who question Ferrari's preferential prize money under the Concorde Agreement. The reason that Dave Richards hasn't been able to confirm his ProDrive involvement in 2008 is because the new Concorde Agreement hasn't been signed. Team principals are kicking off about Ferrari automatically getting the most money, season in season out. Now that we've had Max's rationale that McLaren can get by on Williams' money, the same argument can be applied by the other teams to Ferrari. And all in the interests of "sporting fairness" the phrase that Max has adopted like a mantra.
Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 2nd
He may have been secretly hoping for Raikkonen to trip up, but now Massa has to be resigned to a supporting role.
Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 4th
Alonso is slowly pegging back that lead and after today he knows that the Spaniard will run him off the road if he has to.
Robert Kubica, BMW, 9th
Considering he was already up to 9th by Lap 5, Robert Kubica had a frustrating afternoon of it. He couldn't get past David Coulthard or Heiki Kovalainen when he needed to.
The Car Behind Is Now A Toyota
Mike Gascoyne says he is not feeling at all smug after producing a car that can compete on equal terms with the works Toyota, for 15% of their budget. At Spa on Sunday Adrian Sutil proved that the new Spyker can race with Jarno Trulli and Ralf Schumacher yet the team exist on a budget thought to be around $75m. Gascoyne was released by Toyota last year after a difference in opinion about the direction the team was heading. Gascoyne wanted them to move them forward, but Toyota had other ideas.
"To be fair," said Mike, "they have actually achieved what they set out to do."
Alonso Offers A Bonus Too Far
Fernando Alonso has been heavily criticised by the Mclaren team after it was revealed that he offered his mechanics Ј650 per man to beat Lewis Hamilton... The plan was to get him round the back of the motorhome before the Belgian GP and give him a good kicking
One of the mechanics, who asked for his name to be withheld was shocked at the offer. "Fernando's on Ј12m a year, you would have thought he'd offer a bit more than that."

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Я с сожалением вынужден считать, что НЫНЕШНЯЯ команда МакЛарен - контора с подмоченной репутацией и приличному испанскому человеку там не место
If you wanna win - get the finn! (c)